1 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:20,710 foreign 2 00:00:46,729 --> 00:00:42,310 got over the village 3 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:49,670 it was a disc shaped craft that came 4 00:00:58,130 --> 00:00:51,600 very close to us flying very very 5 00:01:01,369 --> 00:00:59,209 yeah 6 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:01,379 it appeared to be of a pyramid or 7 00:01:08,469 --> 00:01:03,840 tetrahedral shape and it was observed by 8 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:12,860 I seen it I know what I've seen 9 00:01:37,569 --> 00:01:32,649 thank you 10 00:01:45,730 --> 00:01:39,890 oh look it's right there just drop 11 00:01:51,490 --> 00:01:49,569 yeah he'll climb 12 00:01:54,530 --> 00:01:51,500 Autumn 13 00:01:56,929 --> 00:01:54,540 hi I'm Willem heister I made this 14 00:01:59,210 --> 00:01:56,939 recording I'm the owner of the camera 15 00:02:02,830 --> 00:01:59,220 I'm a left-hand call in the Dutch Army 16 00:02:05,389 --> 00:02:02,840 also a military psychologist 17 00:02:08,029 --> 00:02:05,399 unidentified flying objects are usually 18 00:02:09,770 --> 00:02:08,039 dismissed as fantasy but sightings are 19 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:09,780 often reported by highly credible 20 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:12,480 Witnesses they have even been seen by 21 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:14,640 two British policemen 22 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:17,760 control car Delta 9 with PC Roger Willy 23 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:21,360 and PC Clifford base at Oak Hampton were 24 00:02:26,690 --> 00:02:24,120 out on night Duty patrolling the a3072 25 00:02:29,150 --> 00:02:26,700 Heatherly the holsworthy road 26 00:02:31,910 --> 00:02:29,160 precisely one minute past four o'clock 27 00:02:34,850 --> 00:02:31,920 this morning they cited an object 400 28 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:34,860 yards away from them and at Treetop 29 00:02:38,030 --> 00:02:35,760 level 30 00:02:40,610 --> 00:02:38,040 they reported immediately to okhampton 31 00:02:43,970 --> 00:02:40,620 police station where further men were 32 00:02:49,610 --> 00:02:47,630 there was no question whatsoever that um 33 00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:49,620 this was a pigment in the imagination it 34 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:50,700 was it was 35 00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:54,720 it was definitely either manned by some 36 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:57,360 sort of being or remotely controlled it 37 00:03:02,509 --> 00:03:00,000 was definitely being controlled to view 38 00:03:04,990 --> 00:03:02,519 our car or you had the feeling it was 39 00:03:08,030 --> 00:03:05,000 watching you definitely yes 40 00:03:09,949 --> 00:03:08,040 Pilots astronauts even the first round 41 00:03:12,649 --> 00:03:09,959 the world yachtsman Francis Chichester 42 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:12,659 have reported seeing things which seemed 43 00:03:17,630 --> 00:03:15,720 to defy rational explanation it is a 44 00:03:19,790 --> 00:03:17,640 perfect shape it was it was shaped it 45 00:03:23,449 --> 00:03:19,800 was sort of well like a pearl with a 46 00:03:27,170 --> 00:03:23,459 with a tail uh you know just a blimp of 47 00:03:30,670 --> 00:03:27,180 pure blimps shape and I watched this 48 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:30,680 thing and and suddenly it disappeared 49 00:03:37,610 --> 00:03:35,040 and I was I thought well am I 50 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:37,620 um seeing things 51 00:03:42,649 --> 00:03:39,840 reports of sightings can always be 52 00:03:45,170 --> 00:03:42,659 questioned but film of UFOs is harder to 53 00:03:48,589 --> 00:03:45,180 refute these images were taken over Utah 54 00:03:50,449 --> 00:03:48,599 in 1952 the film was minutely 55 00:03:53,210 --> 00:03:50,459 scrutinized by the U.S Navy's 56 00:03:55,550 --> 00:03:53,220 photographic interpretation lab they 57 00:03:57,710 --> 00:03:55,560 concluded that the objects weren't birds 58 00:04:00,890 --> 00:03:57,720 or balloons but self-luminous 59 00:04:03,289 --> 00:04:00,900 unidentified flying objects but in spite 60 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:03,299 of such evidence scientists have always 61 00:04:06,890 --> 00:04:05,519 been skeptical so Richard what do you 62 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:06,900 think of this flying source of business 63 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:08,940 well it's impossible to say what people 64 00:04:13,789 --> 00:04:10,799 actually see it as you're there at the 65 00:04:16,009 --> 00:04:13,799 time and you do get all sorts of reports 66 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:16,019 if you didn't see it once up I can't say 67 00:04:21,710 --> 00:04:18,239 what it is they actually saw you've 68 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:21,720 never seen anything yourself no never 69 00:04:27,909 --> 00:04:25,919 between 1948 and 1969 the U.S Air Force 70 00:04:32,330 --> 00:04:27,919 investigated 12 71 00:04:34,610 --> 00:04:32,340 618 reported sightings over 11 000 were 72 00:04:38,510 --> 00:04:34,620 identified as material objects weather 73 00:04:41,870 --> 00:04:38,520 conditions or hoaxes but 700 cases 74 00:04:44,510 --> 00:04:41,880 remained unexplained 75 00:04:49,850 --> 00:04:44,520 as the number of sightings grew UFO 76 00:04:54,530 --> 00:04:52,249 for Charles Bowen editor of flying 77 00:04:57,110 --> 00:04:54,540 saucer review the debate wasn't so much 78 00:05:00,750 --> 00:04:57,120 about whether UFOs were real but where 79 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:05,510 [Music] 80 00:05:08,450 --> 00:05:06,900 you don't think it's possible that they 81 00:05:10,969 --> 00:05:08,460 could come from another planet within 82 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:10,979 our solar system it is possible but 83 00:05:14,570 --> 00:05:13,199 things seem to prove Earth Point 84 00:05:16,189 --> 00:05:14,580 otherwise 85 00:05:18,770 --> 00:05:16,199 this means they come a very long way 86 00:05:20,510 --> 00:05:18,780 indeed 87 00:05:22,249 --> 00:05:20,520 you think this is still quite possible 88 00:05:23,749 --> 00:05:22,259 this is several light years isn't it 89 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:23,759 from the nearest well we must we must 90 00:05:29,930 --> 00:05:26,400 get around to the way of thinking in 91 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:29,940 terms of non-man-made machines something 92 00:05:34,189 --> 00:05:32,400 more sophisticated than we have ever 93 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:34,199 produced 94 00:05:37,330 --> 00:05:36,180 this film was shot in the United States 95 00:05:39,890 --> 00:05:37,340 in 96 00:05:43,189 --> 00:05:39,900 1965. the image became world famous 97 00:05:45,650 --> 00:05:43,199 overnight but was it genuine or a hoax 98 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:45,660 like so much of the Visual Evidence it's 99 00:05:51,230 --> 00:05:48,320 hard to prove one way or the other 100 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:51,240 most people like Joseph who have come to 101 00:05:55,670 --> 00:05:53,520 believe in flying sources seem to be in 102 00:05:58,670 --> 00:05:55,680 a sense uncritical in that they say 103 00:06:01,010 --> 00:05:58,680 right we accept all the sighting reports 104 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:01,020 we've seen we accept the films we've 105 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:03,360 been shown but they haven't on the whole 106 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:05,300 got their own first-hand experiences 107 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:07,680 have you 108 00:06:14,450 --> 00:06:11,280 uh have I actually seen one 109 00:06:17,450 --> 00:06:14,460 um yes I have seen one I saw one in 1963 110 00:06:19,249 --> 00:06:17,460 uh in London from my flat 111 00:06:24,170 --> 00:06:19,259 one that satisfied you beyond all 112 00:06:26,270 --> 00:06:24,180 Reasonable Doubt yes uh to to uh to my 113 00:06:28,490 --> 00:06:26,280 the best of my knowledge it was nothing 114 00:06:36,010 --> 00:06:28,500 that could be rational or rationally 115 00:06:40,969 --> 00:06:38,330 South America seems to be the most 116 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:40,979 active area for flying sauces ufologists 117 00:06:45,409 --> 00:06:43,500 believe the Spacemen may even have bases 118 00:06:47,390 --> 00:06:45,419 there in the Mato Grosso and the Andes 119 00:06:49,370 --> 00:06:47,400 and even underwater along the Atlantic 120 00:06:51,409 --> 00:06:49,380 coast of Patagonia 121 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:51,419 in France an investigator discovered 122 00:06:56,029 --> 00:06:53,039 that reported sightings for one 123 00:06:58,070 --> 00:06:56,039 September night in 1963 fell in an 124 00:07:00,350 --> 00:06:58,080 absolutely straight line from Bayonne to 125 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:00,360 Vichy ufologists have since used that 126 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:02,160 method to work out two lines of orbit 127 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:04,080 which they reckon linked the areas of 128 00:07:16,610 --> 00:07:13,790 Gordon kraki from the British foreign 129 00:07:18,890 --> 00:07:16,620 office had his own theories 130 00:07:20,270 --> 00:07:18,900 I think that there is more than one type 131 00:07:22,850 --> 00:07:20,280 visiting us 132 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:22,860 I think at least five I'm talking of 133 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:24,960 types of beings some types of craft 134 00:07:29,870 --> 00:07:27,360 there are about 30 types of craft 135 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:29,880 uh I think a minimum of five types of 136 00:07:34,010 --> 00:07:32,400 beings are coming in possibly eight and 137 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:34,020 I think that some other may be friendly 138 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:36,530 and some may not be 139 00:07:47,330 --> 00:07:44,089 there have been many actual shapes the 140 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:47,340 cigar shape which are usually the parent 141 00:07:52,070 --> 00:07:49,280 craft 142 00:07:55,790 --> 00:07:52,080 that have been disc shaped many disc 143 00:07:56,450 --> 00:07:55,800 shaped uh tadpole 144 00:08:00,770 --> 00:07:56,460 um 145 00:08:03,409 --> 00:08:00,780 heal like that in a man's shoe bubble 146 00:08:05,570 --> 00:08:03,419 a triangular 147 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:05,580 and so on 148 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:07,919 the most disturbing theory of all is 149 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:09,840 that the men in the flying sources are 150 00:08:14,089 --> 00:08:12,060 our own descendants perhaps centuries in 151 00:08:16,070 --> 00:08:14,099 the future who found a way of breaking 152 00:08:20,029 --> 00:08:16,080 through the time barrier to visit their 153 00:08:21,469 --> 00:08:20,039 own past which is our present it is part 154 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:21,479 of modern astronomy isn't it it's 155 00:08:26,089 --> 00:08:23,520 accepted by modern astronomers that it's 156 00:08:28,189 --> 00:08:26,099 possible that there are many planets in 157 00:08:30,589 --> 00:08:28,199 our galaxy that could sustain our kind 158 00:08:32,449 --> 00:08:30,599 of life or life similar to ours oh yes 159 00:08:33,949 --> 00:08:32,459 in our galaxy we're not in the solar 160 00:08:36,769 --> 00:08:33,959 system this makes an enormous difference 161 00:08:39,050 --> 00:08:36,779 about the travel time the if the thing 162 00:08:40,969 --> 00:08:39,060 is uh many thousand light years away 163 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:40,979 from here or many million light years 164 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:43,919 away from here uh you even if you move 165 00:08:48,949 --> 00:08:46,080 with the speed of light you've got to be 166 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:48,959 many million years old to get here 167 00:08:53,329 --> 00:08:51,360 friendly or not in the United States the 168 00:08:55,490 --> 00:08:53,339 military faced growing criticism from 169 00:08:59,210 --> 00:08:55,500 the public and the media for not taking 170 00:09:01,370 --> 00:08:59,220 the subject seriously in 1966 the U.S 171 00:09:04,430 --> 00:09:01,380 Air Force tried to silence its critics 172 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:04,440 by asking the University of Colorado to 173 00:09:10,009 --> 00:09:06,540 conduct the most exhaustive scientific 174 00:09:12,829 --> 00:09:10,019 study of the UFO's ever undertaken their 175 00:09:15,410 --> 00:09:12,839 aim was to put an end to speculation and 176 00:09:20,930 --> 00:09:15,420 clear the air of flying sources once and 177 00:09:27,710 --> 00:09:24,170 author and UFO expert Timothy good has 178 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:27,720 closely studied the Air Force report 179 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:30,080 if you actually read the scientific 180 00:09:37,250 --> 00:09:33,200 study which is a very very long book 181 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:37,260 it's quite clear that a relatively large 182 00:09:43,730 --> 00:09:40,500 percentage of the cases investigated by 183 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:43,740 Specialists by scientists in specific 184 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:46,560 disciplines were unexplainable I think 185 00:09:53,810 --> 00:09:50,220 something like 30 percent of the 117 186 00:09:56,509 --> 00:09:53,820 cases examined by the Colorado 187 00:09:59,870 --> 00:09:56,519 University commissioned commission were 188 00:10:04,130 --> 00:10:01,550 the report satisfied the military 189 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:04,140 establishment but it didn't stop the 190 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:12,410 UFOs continue to be seen around the 191 00:10:17,570 --> 00:10:14,880 world no more so than over the small 192 00:10:20,389 --> 00:10:17,580 English town of Warminster during the 193 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:20,399 60s it became the UFO capital of the 194 00:10:26,650 --> 00:10:21,510 world 195 00:10:31,250 --> 00:10:29,030 a lot of people reported these strange 196 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:31,260 clatterings on roofs which as I say is 197 00:10:34,850 --> 00:10:33,360 often the onset of poltergeist activity 198 00:10:36,590 --> 00:10:34,860 in in other situations it would be 199 00:10:40,070 --> 00:10:36,600 looked at in that way and there were 200 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:40,080 many sightings of people down on outside 201 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:41,519 the towns people would be sort of 202 00:10:45,710 --> 00:10:43,920 walking in the in the fields and they'd 203 00:10:48,290 --> 00:10:45,720 see someone who would just fade away or 204 00:10:50,090 --> 00:10:48,300 disappear very ghostly a worried Town 205 00:10:51,889 --> 00:10:50,100 came together at a public meeting 206 00:10:53,269 --> 00:10:51,899 firstly let me thank you all for coming 207 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:53,279 along this evening 208 00:10:56,509 --> 00:10:54,720 and I hope what will prove a 209 00:10:59,329 --> 00:10:56,519 constructive meeting 210 00:11:01,430 --> 00:10:59,339 it is perhaps appropriate if I first 211 00:11:03,710 --> 00:11:01,440 give some background information to 212 00:11:06,170 --> 00:11:03,720 clarify the aims of this meeting I 213 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:06,180 called the meeting because some people 214 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:08,160 said they've seen things 215 00:11:11,269 --> 00:11:10,260 and in the local paper they'd written a 216 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:11,279 letter 217 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:13,880 and then some other 218 00:11:18,050 --> 00:11:16,560 individuals ridiculed these good people 219 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:18,060 saying 220 00:11:22,250 --> 00:11:19,920 they ought to take more water with a 221 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:23,569 many of our 222 00:11:30,410 --> 00:11:29,030 you couldn't get into the 223 00:11:33,170 --> 00:11:30,420 interval 224 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:33,180 the main street was 225 00:11:37,009 --> 00:11:35,160 festooned with people 226 00:11:38,269 --> 00:11:37,019 personally I had to have a police escort 227 00:11:40,009 --> 00:11:38,279 to get in 228 00:11:42,050 --> 00:11:40,019 one night back in the summer it could 229 00:11:44,210 --> 00:11:42,060 have been the 11th of August 230 00:11:45,889 --> 00:11:44,220 I heard a sound that was really horrible 231 00:11:48,050 --> 00:11:45,899 but I would have said was a Commodore 232 00:11:49,670 --> 00:11:48,060 Garden helicopter sitting only a few 233 00:11:53,329 --> 00:11:49,680 feet up above the house how many people 234 00:11:55,180 --> 00:11:53,339 are here tonight are afraid of the thing 235 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:55,190 how many of you 236 00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:01,430 was this the thing it was photographed 237 00:12:07,190 --> 00:12:04,079 over Warminster by a local boy Gordon 238 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:09,829 from what he told me at the time he was 239 00:12:14,210 --> 00:12:12,480 coming out from his house to take his 240 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:14,220 camera which was a rather nice one a 241 00:12:17,449 --> 00:12:15,600 Japanese one 242 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:17,459 um that time 243 00:12:22,670 --> 00:12:18,959 um much better than the one my daughter 244 00:12:25,250 --> 00:12:22,680 had and he was bringing it down to loan 245 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:25,260 it to her and he was just coming out of 246 00:12:30,949 --> 00:12:28,560 his garden door and and he looked up and 247 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:30,959 saw this thing across the skyline above 248 00:12:34,910 --> 00:12:33,240 the houses and he thought that's 249 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:34,920 something odd and he had to hand his 250 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:37,800 camera so he just snapped it didn't 251 00:12:40,910 --> 00:12:39,240 really think any more about it thought 252 00:12:42,889 --> 00:12:40,920 well it was odd but when it was 253 00:12:45,590 --> 00:12:42,899 developed of course that was the the 254 00:12:49,449 --> 00:12:45,600 photograph that was sort of accepted all 255 00:12:55,069 --> 00:12:52,970 foreign the events that so terrified the 256 00:12:58,009 --> 00:12:55,079 inhabitants of Warminster sparked the 257 00:13:00,470 --> 00:12:58,019 imagination of John Spencer then only 11 258 00:13:02,930 --> 00:13:00,480 years old 259 00:13:04,910 --> 00:13:02,940 now Vice President of the British UFO 260 00:13:10,129 --> 00:13:04,920 research Association he is still 261 00:13:13,370 --> 00:13:11,509 it's awesome pictures it's about as good 262 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:13,380 as they come which is which is to say 263 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:14,700 pretty bad 264 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:16,800 um there's a general rule in flying 265 00:13:19,610 --> 00:13:18,000 sauces at the most clear pictures 266 00:13:21,170 --> 00:13:19,620 usually eventually that you can find the 267 00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:21,180 strings that hold them up the real ones 268 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:22,980 do tend to be sort of pretty grainy 269 00:13:26,449 --> 00:13:24,720 pretty blood because by their nature 270 00:13:28,190 --> 00:13:26,459 these things are reported as moving at 271 00:13:30,650 --> 00:13:28,200 high speed and often sounds you know 272 00:13:32,449 --> 00:13:30,660 unsurprisingly so you know Gordon's 273 00:13:35,629 --> 00:13:32,459 account is pretty well a standard one 274 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:35,639 and the picture is not not surprisingly 275 00:13:39,170 --> 00:13:37,860 very blurred I have to say it's a it's a 276 00:13:40,670 --> 00:13:39,180 very limited picture because there's 277 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:40,680 nothing else in the picture at all to 278 00:13:44,870 --> 00:13:42,480 give it perspective or size or distance 279 00:13:46,250 --> 00:13:44,880 as you know every almost every dimension 280 00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:46,260 of the thing is 281 00:13:54,590 --> 00:13:51,829 armed to the teeth with sophisticated 282 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:54,600 devices the world's UFO enthusiasts 283 00:14:04,129 --> 00:14:01,610 [Music] 284 00:14:06,350 --> 00:14:04,139 every night sky Watchers crowded onto 285 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:06,360 the hills determined to catch a glimpse 286 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:08,770 of an extraterrestrial 287 00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:11,760 [Music] 288 00:14:24,889 --> 00:14:22,320 ER Molly Carey got caught up in UFO 289 00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:24,899 Mania she took pity on Frozen Sky 290 00:14:30,590 --> 00:14:27,180 Watchers and her home often became an 291 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:32,930 some nights she'd have up to 20 people 292 00:14:50,509 --> 00:14:46,370 people used to come from all over 293 00:14:54,410 --> 00:14:52,310 there could have been one or two aliens 294 00:14:55,310 --> 00:14:54,420 came but that was just what they used to 295 00:14:59,210 --> 00:14:55,320 say 296 00:15:02,269 --> 00:14:59,220 they came from oh and they were all ages 297 00:15:08,740 --> 00:15:02,279 from the very young to the very old 298 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:13,670 [Music] 299 00:15:18,829 --> 00:15:17,210 I remember the UFO flap down in 300 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:18,839 Warminster 301 00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:21,720 back in late 1964 I think it started and 302 00:15:28,370 --> 00:15:26,399 it went on in through 1965 through 1967. 303 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:28,380 at the height of it I went down there 304 00:15:33,829 --> 00:15:30,240 and I can remember 305 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:33,839 traipsing around very cold hilltops 306 00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:37,920 together with teams of uh 307 00:15:44,750 --> 00:15:42,000 other enthusiasts I never saw anything 308 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,760 other than satellites and aircraft I 309 00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:46,800 have to say even though others disagreed 310 00:15:50,930 --> 00:15:48,720 with me what was always interesting with 311 00:15:53,210 --> 00:15:50,940 the skywatches is that we had you could 312 00:15:54,889 --> 00:15:53,220 you could see the sociology of UFOs as 313 00:15:56,449 --> 00:15:54,899 well as what was in the sky you could 314 00:15:58,670 --> 00:15:56,459 see different people and you could stand 315 00:16:01,069 --> 00:15:58,680 in a group of people and in six people 316 00:16:02,689 --> 00:16:01,079 three of them could see lights in the 317 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:02,699 sky two of them could see nothing 318 00:16:06,290 --> 00:16:04,320 whatsoever and another person could see 319 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:06,300 portholes on a spaceship from Venus and 320 00:16:09,650 --> 00:16:07,680 that was always fascinating that 321 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:09,660 different people could interpret things 322 00:16:14,449 --> 00:16:12,120 so obviously genuinely and passionately 323 00:16:16,910 --> 00:16:14,459 but it it talked I think all UFO 324 00:16:18,490 --> 00:16:16,920 researchers a lot about we have to study 325 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:18,500 people as much as we have to study 326 00:16:23,329 --> 00:16:21,120 photographs thirty years after the 327 00:16:25,069 --> 00:16:23,339 famous photo of the thing appeared John 328 00:16:27,530 --> 00:16:25,079 Spencer had a call from a friend of 329 00:16:28,569 --> 00:16:27,540 Gordon Faulkner claiming the photo was a 330 00:16:32,990 --> 00:16:28,579 fake 331 00:16:36,350 --> 00:16:33,000 and I did some experiments with uh 332 00:16:40,189 --> 00:16:36,360 little models made out of little bowl 333 00:16:42,410 --> 00:16:40,199 tops and buttons and it's a 334 00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:42,420 I can't do it I can't remember exactly 335 00:16:46,490 --> 00:16:44,639 exactly whatever but they're all they're 336 00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:46,500 all small 337 00:16:50,689 --> 00:16:48,240 um never tried throwing them in the air 338 00:16:54,290 --> 00:16:50,699 taking a photograph try and get a rough 339 00:16:56,509 --> 00:16:54,300 idea as to how small you could get 340 00:16:57,290 --> 00:16:56,519 the throne being developed by summary 341 00:17:01,490 --> 00:16:57,300 local 342 00:17:03,710 --> 00:17:01,500 according to Roger Gordon and he and 343 00:17:06,169 --> 00:17:03,720 others involved indeed he thought people 344 00:17:08,030 --> 00:17:06,179 working here in the Warminster Journal 345 00:17:09,770 --> 00:17:08,040 at the time got together to play a 346 00:17:12,590 --> 00:17:09,780 practical joke on the then owner Charlie 347 00:17:14,449 --> 00:17:12,600 Mills Roger makes the point that 348 00:17:16,909 --> 00:17:14,459 considering the fuss that had been going 349 00:17:18,409 --> 00:17:16,919 on in Warminster he believes that 350 00:17:20,809 --> 00:17:18,419 Charlie Mills knew this was a joke 351 00:17:23,870 --> 00:17:20,819 because here it is it's a tiny little 352 00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:23,880 paragraph here and it's right next to 353 00:17:28,250 --> 00:17:26,400 Mrs May Butterworth advertising for 354 00:17:30,169 --> 00:17:28,260 someone to take over the job of counting 355 00:17:32,090 --> 00:17:30,179 wildfowl on sheer water in the winter 356 00:17:33,650 --> 00:17:32,100 months in other words there's been no 357 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:33,660 fuss made about it considering the 358 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:36,480 apparent value of this and considering 359 00:17:39,890 --> 00:17:38,220 the extraordinary spread that came in 360 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:39,900 the Daily Mirror when Martin shuttlewood 361 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:41,580 took it to the Daily Mirror within the 362 00:17:47,450 --> 00:17:43,730 next day or so 363 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:49,610 Gordon has always said that it was a 364 00:17:53,810 --> 00:17:51,360 genuine photograph and I've never sort 365 00:17:55,490 --> 00:17:53,820 of disbelieved him because he's um he's 366 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:55,500 very keen photographer it has a great 367 00:17:59,210 --> 00:17:57,360 deal of Photography but I have never 368 00:18:00,770 --> 00:17:59,220 doubted him for one moment that he took 369 00:18:03,169 --> 00:18:00,780 a genuine photograph of something that 370 00:18:05,810 --> 00:18:03,179 was very odd at the time 371 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:05,820 if I or if anyone can prove that Gordon 372 00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:07,320 Faulkner is telling the truth or lying 373 00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:08,940 or that Roger is telling the truth or 374 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:10,260 lying it won't make any difference to 375 00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:12,240 the impact this Photograph had whether 376 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:14,880 it was milk bottle tops and and buttons 377 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:18,000 or whether it was a genuine UFO the 378 00:18:41,150 --> 00:18:39,529 I believe that the the UFO phenomena and 379 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:41,160 the crop circles are totally connected 380 00:18:45,710 --> 00:18:43,440 and it's to uh 381 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:45,720 reawaken an ancient knowledge that we've 382 00:19:03,169 --> 00:19:00,890 [Music] 383 00:19:05,630 --> 00:19:03,179 Colin Andrews has been collecting and 384 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:05,640 processing crop circle statistics in an 385 00:19:18,350 --> 00:19:14,990 this is indeed a mystery I've dealt with 386 00:19:20,510 --> 00:19:18,360 worked with at least 50 scientists and 387 00:19:23,390 --> 00:19:20,520 Engineers on this over the last nearly 388 00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:23,400 10 years and there's nobody in the world 389 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:25,140 that's anywhere near an answer to 390 00:19:36,169 --> 00:19:27,840 account for this I believe we're looking 391 00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:39,650 in September 1991 Doug Bauer and Dave 392 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:41,880 Chorley owned up to creating at least 393 00:19:51,169 --> 00:19:49,250 we wanted to make the UFO Society sink 394 00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:51,179 that a UVO had landed you see 395 00:19:55,789 --> 00:19:53,880 and after a few years they they didn't 396 00:19:59,210 --> 00:19:55,799 know whether to believe it or not 397 00:20:02,029 --> 00:19:59,220 and as the years rolled by we started 398 00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:02,039 doing certain patterns and as you see 399 00:20:06,169 --> 00:20:04,020 today we've got quite complicated in 400 00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:06,179 them at certain times of your life you 401 00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,679 love to take somebody for a ride don't 402 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:09,840 you if it's not doing any harm and I 403 00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:11,220 didn't see her doing any harm a 404 00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:13,380 relationship was originally perceived 405 00:20:18,770 --> 00:20:16,080 between UFOs and crop circles it was 406 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:18,780 thought that the crop circles were UFO 407 00:20:23,210 --> 00:20:20,640 landing sites only at the very beginning 408 00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:23,220 when the first sighting was was of a 409 00:20:26,090 --> 00:20:24,660 crop circle was found it was circular 410 00:20:28,190 --> 00:20:26,100 and it was UFO researchers that 411 00:20:29,630 --> 00:20:28,200 investigated it if we believe the claims 412 00:20:31,610 --> 00:20:29,640 of Doug and Dave who say that they 413 00:20:33,529 --> 00:20:31,620 actually manufactured crop circles the 414 00:20:36,529 --> 00:20:33,539 first elaborate pattern that they went 415 00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:36,539 for was a sort of a one major Circle in 416 00:20:39,169 --> 00:20:38,039 the middle and four outriders at the 417 00:20:40,730 --> 00:20:39,179 edge and they said that they 418 00:20:42,110 --> 00:20:40,740 deliberately created that in the shape 419 00:20:43,549 --> 00:20:42,120 of the lunar module to make it look like 420 00:20:46,190 --> 00:20:43,559 something had landed 421 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,200 the experts weren't so easily fooled 422 00:20:49,250 --> 00:20:48,240 it's an obvious I mean it's absolutely 423 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:49,260 obvious 424 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:52,080 this here you see it's not consistent at 425 00:21:01,250 --> 00:20:58,789 to this day the crop circle controversy 426 00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:01,260 continues an amateur cameraman captured 427 00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:03,900 on film this shiny object flying up from 428 00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:05,940 the corn could this be an 429 00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:07,860 extraterrestrial explanation for the 430 00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:21,409 Now where's that piece of paper 431 00:21:30,409 --> 00:21:23,280 it's a bird 432 00:21:30,419 --> 00:21:36,110 how's it going 433 00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:38,630 to stop 434 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:41,039 the farmer too reported seeing a silver 435 00:22:03,289 --> 00:22:01,070 in the late 1980s the ufologist's 436 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,299 attention switched to Florida and the 437 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:05,520 town of Gulf Breeze 438 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:12,529 there she is 439 00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:17,280 oh my God 440 00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:20,159 in 1987 this small coastal town in 441 00:22:26,450 --> 00:22:23,640 America was overtaken by UFO fever like 442 00:22:29,450 --> 00:22:26,460 Warminster the UFO sighting put Gulf 443 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:29,460 Breeze firmly on the map 444 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,640 kind of solid in the sky right there 445 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,320 that's the 446 00:22:39,890 --> 00:22:37,440 Tower way back Beyond local property 447 00:22:42,770 --> 00:22:39,900 developer Ed Walters took this video in 448 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:42,780 1993 while walking along the Pensacola 449 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,330 oh my God just hovering right there 450 00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:52,549 Bob uschler an aerospace technologist 451 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,840 was intrigued by the stories coming out 452 00:22:58,909 --> 00:22:56,880 of Gulf Breeze and went to look for 453 00:23:01,549 --> 00:22:58,919 himself 454 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,559 it was at night the first time Ed and I 455 00:23:06,649 --> 00:23:03,360 were driving in his truck just across 456 00:23:08,570 --> 00:23:06,659 the bridge here to Pensacola and as I'm 457 00:23:10,610 --> 00:23:08,580 sitting in the passenger seat looking 458 00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:10,620 across it head I noticed just out 459 00:23:15,289 --> 00:23:12,799 through the window this extraordinary 460 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,299 object really that was just above the 461 00:23:18,770 --> 00:23:17,280 water you could even see the glow of the 462 00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:18,780 light on the bottom of the craft 463 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:20,940 reflecting off of the water surface 464 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,240 which was kind of ripply and it was such 465 00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:26,400 a shock really to see 466 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,440 exactly what was in the photographs that 467 00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:30,480 I had been analyzing for the past year 468 00:23:35,149 --> 00:23:33,600 and I'm asking Ed what what is that and 469 00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,159 he's looking out the window and he's 470 00:23:39,049 --> 00:23:37,440 excited as I am because this is the 471 00:23:41,090 --> 00:23:39,059 first time anyone else has been with him 472 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:41,100 when he actually saw much less 473 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:43,260 photographed one of these objects so 474 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:45,000 he's asking me what I'm seeing and we're 475 00:23:47,570 --> 00:23:46,500 describing to each other exactly what 476 00:23:49,490 --> 00:23:47,580 we're seeing and this thing is just 477 00:23:51,770 --> 00:23:49,500 pacing along with us for about a minute 478 00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:51,780 and a half as we crossed the the bridge 479 00:23:56,029 --> 00:23:54,000 here and approach this hump and then it 480 00:24:01,490 --> 00:23:56,039 just kind of glided over towards the 481 00:24:06,350 --> 00:24:03,950 Ursula had studied dozens of pictures of 482 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:06,360 Gulf Breeze sightings seeing one for 483 00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:08,820 himself dispelled any remaining dots 484 00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:15,890 it was no longer an issue of was it real 485 00:24:23,049 --> 00:24:18,900 it was indeed real it was a real solid 486 00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,059 object that could perform physical 487 00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:25,679 characteristics of aerodynamics that was 488 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:28,320 absolutely foreign to Aerospace 489 00:24:36,409 --> 00:24:34,430 Ed Walters took some spectacular 490 00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:36,419 pictures of what he saw above his home 491 00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:38,520 to many people they were convincing 492 00:24:49,850 --> 00:24:47,270 some months later Ed took this video 493 00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:49,860 footage from his back Garden it appears 494 00:25:02,830 --> 00:24:51,659 to show three similar objects 495 00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,330 some of his neighbors also captured 496 00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:07,919 extraordinary images these were taken by 497 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,310 look it's right there just drop 498 00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,600 something out Gary 499 00:25:25,370 --> 00:25:23,039 again 500 00:25:27,049 --> 00:25:25,380 it's still coming down pictures like 501 00:25:30,169 --> 00:25:27,059 these were reinforced by physical 502 00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:30,179 evidence of inexplicable goings-on one 503 00:25:40,010 --> 00:25:38,090 December 17th of 1987 uh marked a 504 00:25:41,810 --> 00:25:40,020 threshold in the evolution of the 505 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:41,820 investigation here of the UFO phenomenon 506 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:44,400 and Gulf Breeze on that night Ed Walters 507 00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:47,279 from his house just down here got the 508 00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:49,380 familiar buzzing he'd been accustomed to 509 00:25:54,110 --> 00:25:52,200 hearing with the the craft showing up 510 00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,120 and he looked out and saw this craft 511 00:25:59,210 --> 00:25:56,880 right out here above the field just a a 512 00:26:00,769 --> 00:25:59,220 few feet above the ground and what was 513 00:26:03,230 --> 00:26:00,779 remarkable about that in the photograph 514 00:26:04,909 --> 00:26:03,240 that followed was in the days and weeks 515 00:26:07,310 --> 00:26:04,919 of the investigation that followed we 516 00:26:09,950 --> 00:26:07,320 had a physical phenomenon the craft had 517 00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:09,960 affected the the grass here and the soil 518 00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:11,940 in such a way that first all of the 519 00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:13,740 grass had turned white and the ground 520 00:26:18,049 --> 00:26:16,740 itself had undergone some sort of energy 521 00:26:20,570 --> 00:26:18,059 exposure 522 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,580 for two years you could clearly see the 523 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,559 mark where this craft had been hovering 524 00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:24,960 the local grounds crew here at the 525 00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:26,820 school had come out and put fertilizer 526 00:26:30,409 --> 00:26:28,860 down and seeded it and watered it and 527 00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,419 couldn't get anything to grow as you can 528 00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,159 see they even recently brought in a 529 00:26:36,529 --> 00:26:34,320 brown type of topsoil which is different 530 00:26:37,789 --> 00:26:36,539 than the white surrounding sand here and 531 00:26:38,990 --> 00:26:37,799 you can see they've still not been 532 00:26:43,549 --> 00:26:39,000 successful in getting something to grow 533 00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:46,010 across the world in Moscow a group of 534 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:47,880 scientists have observed similar 535 00:27:08,910 --> 00:26:50,220 phenomena 536 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,750 [Music] 537 00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:14,159 he studied dozens of sites where UFOs 538 00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:16,440 are said to have landed one he's looked 539 00:27:36,110 --> 00:27:19,679 at in detail is just outside Moscow 540 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:51,169 foreign 541 00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:53,930 he has also conducted experiments using 542 00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:56,750 on the crucial symptoms 543 00:29:01,970 --> 00:28:59,450 many UFO sightings take place near 544 00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,980 military installations one of the best 545 00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:04,080 documented was at a U.S Air Force Base 546 00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:07,440 in Suffolk England in 1980. guards 547 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:09,779 reported seeing a strange object in the 548 00:29:14,510 --> 00:29:12,720 forest a patrol was sent out the 549 00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:14,520 following extracts are taken from a 550 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:39,049 [Music] 551 00:29:39,059 --> 00:29:50,140 yesterday 552 00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:56,990 [Music] 553 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:05,060 this way this is weird 554 00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:07,070 [Music] 555 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:27,350 he's coming toward us now 556 00:30:31,850 --> 00:30:29,389 the patrol was led by Deputy base 557 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,860 commander Colonel Charles Holt who sent 558 00:30:36,649 --> 00:30:34,080 an official memo about the incident to 559 00:30:38,990 --> 00:30:36,659 the ministry of Defense he received no 560 00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:39,000 response and no explanation for what 561 00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:47,149 in March 1990 the two f-16s returned to 562 00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:58,970 [Music] 563 00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:03,169 but since the 1940s over 3500 Pilots 564 00:31:13,370 --> 00:31:11,149 now retired former British Airways 565 00:31:16,610 --> 00:31:13,380 Captain Graham Shepard can finally talk 566 00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:16,620 openly about his UFO experiences on the 567 00:31:21,409 --> 00:31:18,260 22nd of March 568 00:31:24,830 --> 00:31:21,419 1967 we are returning from Gibraltar to 569 00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:28,010 quite suddenly we were aware that ahead 570 00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:29,940 of us was a star which was at least 571 00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:31,860 twice as bright as the best of Syria 572 00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:34,559 Soul Venus all the while it was changing 573 00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,840 color it was it was very very bright 574 00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:38,640 iridescent colors 575 00:31:42,769 --> 00:31:40,440 there were greens and blues beautiful 576 00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:42,779 Reds 577 00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,820 um and suddenly again suddenly 578 00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:46,320 everything happens 579 00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:50,039 it it started air batting 580 00:31:54,889 --> 00:31:51,899 it was moving around the sky doing 581 00:31:58,090 --> 00:31:54,899 figures of eight it was doing Loops it's 582 00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:58,100 it was maneuvering at a rate which is 583 00:32:02,750 --> 00:32:00,240 impossible in my view 584 00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,760 for known 585 00:32:08,029 --> 00:32:05,039 aerodynamic laws 586 00:32:10,029 --> 00:32:08,039 and we asked border radar if they had 587 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:10,039 any unidentified traffic and they did 588 00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:13,200 confirm they had unidentified traffic 10 589 00:32:26,930 --> 00:32:25,010 Pilots better than anybody else know 590 00:32:39,169 --> 00:32:26,940 there is often a rational explanation 591 00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:40,669 you see a number of things from the 592 00:32:45,169 --> 00:32:42,240 flight deck 593 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:45,179 other airplanes we see Reflections from 594 00:32:48,649 --> 00:32:46,200 the ground 595 00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:48,659 this is day and night time 596 00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:51,840 and within minutes the Preston radar 597 00:32:55,490 --> 00:32:54,120 controller alerted us 598 00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,500 he told us we have opposite direction 599 00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:57,840 traffic in the airway very fast moving 600 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:03,289 immediately of course we looked out of 601 00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:05,340 the flight deck straight ahead of us to 602 00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:07,080 the 12 o'clock position 603 00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:09,240 an interview came 604 00:33:13,490 --> 00:33:12,120 a disc shaped craft it was shaped like a 605 00:33:16,909 --> 00:33:13,500 discus 606 00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:19,190 a more accurate description would be 607 00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:21,000 like a hubcap 608 00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:24,179 of American car 609 00:33:29,690 --> 00:33:26,640 a cup holder on the top diameter about 610 00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:29,700 30 feet in my view 611 00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:31,980 I was looking down on the craft the 612 00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:34,740 machine as it came past flying at very 613 00:33:38,090 --> 00:33:36,360 very high speed 614 00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,100 it came to within about a quarter of a 615 00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:40,559 mile of us I was looking down on it 616 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:52,070 foreign 617 00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,830 two very curious things 618 00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:56,880 first of all there was no Shockwave from 619 00:34:02,930 --> 00:34:00,539 this machine it was close enough 620 00:34:06,409 --> 00:34:02,940 in my experience it was close enough to 621 00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:06,419 give us quite a bump a noise and a bang 622 00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:10,260 as the Shockwave passed us 623 00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:13,020 secondly we made no attempt 624 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:14,940 to report an air mist 625 00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:17,520 a near Collision or file an air safety 626 00:34:22,369 --> 00:34:19,379 report 627 00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:22,379 so that not only us as a crew that the 628 00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:25,080 Preston radar controller were aware that 629 00:34:28,430 --> 00:34:26,520 its strangeness 630 00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:28,440 didn't qualify 631 00:34:40,490 --> 00:34:38,389 25 years on I feel I've got a long and 632 00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:40,500 happy career behind me 633 00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:43,440 and I feel so strongly that the whole 634 00:34:47,089 --> 00:34:45,480 subject is 635 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:47,099 and should be 636 00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,960 in the public domain 637 00:34:52,849 --> 00:34:51,119 so I broke ranks if you like and broke 638 00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:52,859 ranks and 639 00:34:59,329 --> 00:34:56,220 decided to talk about it openly 640 00:35:01,250 --> 00:34:59,339 to the media British Airways were 641 00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:01,260 apoplectic 642 00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:03,480 it's the only word I can use 643 00:35:07,370 --> 00:35:05,700 they gave me lengthy interviews and they 644 00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:07,380 followed up the interviews 645 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:09,300 with a letter 646 00:35:15,650 --> 00:35:13,920 which in all fairness does describe the 647 00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:15,660 conflict that does exist 648 00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:19,200 between a subject UFOs 649 00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:20,940 which is on the The Fringe of 650 00:35:26,510 --> 00:35:23,700 believability and The credibility 651 00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:26,520 of British Airways captains British 652 00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:29,700 Airways want the least possible 653 00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:32,280 controversy they don't want wacky 654 00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:34,380 Captain they don't want wacky Crews they 655 00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:37,980 don't want any of the air crew involved 656 00:35:41,230 --> 00:35:39,540 with any subjects which have the 657 00:35:48,349 --> 00:35:41,240 slightest 658 00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:50,750 since modern UFO sightings began 659 00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:53,099 Believers have accused politicians and 660 00:35:57,950 --> 00:35:56,460 the military of a cover-up 661 00:36:00,050 --> 00:35:57,960 how much do you think governments have 662 00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,060 suppressed what they have seen or what 663 00:36:05,870 --> 00:36:03,200 the organs like the air forces have seen 664 00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:05,880 it is something that I can't quite 665 00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:08,280 frankly prove you think that the 666 00:36:12,349 --> 00:36:09,960 authorities really are suppressing the 667 00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:12,359 information not Supreme yeah suppressive 668 00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:14,099 that's true and not allowing their 669 00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:15,599 junior officials to know anything so 670 00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:17,900 they can't tell lies anyway 671 00:36:29,930 --> 00:36:22,820 five four three two one 672 00:36:59,380 --> 00:36:33,890 s 673 00:37:05,210 --> 00:36:59,390 people out there 674 00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:05,220 [Music] 675 00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:08,280 oh a number of astronauts in both the 676 00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:09,839 former Soviet Union and the United 677 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:11,940 States are rumored to have encountered 678 00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:14,130 UFOs 679 00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:24,290 Armstrong is reported to have seen a UFO 680 00:37:29,150 --> 00:37:26,820 or two UFOs on the moon together with 681 00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:29,160 Buzz Aldrin and a number of people from 682 00:37:32,930 --> 00:37:31,020 NASA have come forward with that story 683 00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:32,940 including Maurice chatelaine who is a 684 00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:34,260 Communications 685 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,599 specialist who helped design the Apollo 686 00:37:42,109 --> 00:37:38,880 spacecraft he confirms that both 687 00:37:43,490 --> 00:37:42,119 Armstrong and Aldrin did indeed see UFOs 688 00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:43,500 on the moon 689 00:37:48,890 --> 00:37:46,560 I'm not a conspiracy freak as such but 690 00:37:52,130 --> 00:37:48,900 the fact of the matter is that there is 691 00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:52,140 an officially acknowledged cover-up of 692 00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:54,900 the UFO phenomenon certainly by the 693 00:37:58,849 --> 00:37:56,820 United States authorities this is easily 694 00:38:00,910 --> 00:37:58,859 approvable because 695 00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:00,920 since the 1970s 696 00:38:06,530 --> 00:38:04,680 thousands of documents on UFOs 697 00:38:09,470 --> 00:38:06,540 have now been released by the 698 00:38:12,109 --> 00:38:09,480 intelligence Community I'm talking not 699 00:38:14,329 --> 00:38:12,119 just about the FBI and the CIA with with 700 00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:14,339 which we're we're all familiar but the 701 00:38:17,810 --> 00:38:16,020 defense intelligence agency the National 702 00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:17,820 Security Agency 703 00:38:24,170 --> 00:38:21,060 the state department Bureau of research 704 00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:24,180 the atomic energy commission Army Air 705 00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:26,820 Force Naval intelligence and several 706 00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:29,940 others all of whom with the exception of 707 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:32,400 the Air Force denied any serious 708 00:38:38,329 --> 00:38:36,240 involvement in UFOs and denied having 709 00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:38,339 any documents but thanks to the Freedom 710 00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:40,020 of Information Act we know they've been 711 00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:41,160 lying 712 00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:43,500 in Washington D.C the Federation of 713 00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:45,839 American scientists has been campaigning 714 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,820 against what it sees as excessive 715 00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:49,680 government secrecy 716 00:38:53,930 --> 00:38:51,780 one of the peculiar things about the 717 00:38:57,950 --> 00:38:53,940 secrecy problem is that no one really 718 00:39:00,349 --> 00:38:57,960 knows just how many classified documents 719 00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:00,359 there are there is no inventory there's 720 00:39:06,589 --> 00:39:04,260 no catalog or index what we do know are 721 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:06,599 bits and pieces of the problem and the 722 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,599 bits and pieces are quite sizable 723 00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:12,240 themselves for example the National 724 00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:15,480 Archives reports that it has more than 725 00:39:23,450 --> 00:39:18,780 300 million pages of classified 726 00:39:33,010 --> 00:39:23,460 documents from before 1960 alone that 727 00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:36,530 thank you there is a vast quantity of 728 00:39:42,530 --> 00:39:39,119 government documentation on the 729 00:39:47,450 --> 00:39:42,540 phenomenon of unidentified flying 730 00:39:54,589 --> 00:39:49,250 Timothy Goode has had first-hand 731 00:39:59,450 --> 00:39:56,690 the object that I saw 732 00:40:04,130 --> 00:39:59,460 in the sky here in southeast London 733 00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:04,140 in 1980 first appeared as a bright point 734 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:07,380 of light just like Venus or a very 735 00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:09,720 bright star and at first I thought maybe 736 00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:12,119 this was an aircraft reflecting the last 737 00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:13,500 rays of the sun because this was at 738 00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:15,780 about seven minutes past four in the 739 00:40:20,329 --> 00:40:17,940 afternoon 740 00:40:22,130 --> 00:40:20,339 um but then I realized that it wasn't 741 00:40:23,690 --> 00:40:22,140 really in the right position for Venus 742 00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:23,700 or any other planet it was much too 743 00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:26,280 bright to be a star somebody got 744 00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:28,920 videotape of it from the Seven Oaks area 745 00:40:32,569 --> 00:40:31,140 and this is I think a 35 to 40 minute 746 00:40:36,109 --> 00:40:32,579 video 747 00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:36,119 and that clearly shows a point of light 748 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:37,760 in the sky 749 00:40:42,770 --> 00:40:40,800 unfortunately you know without a 750 00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,780 powerful Zoom you don't get any idea of 751 00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:44,880 the shape of it I mean that could not be 752 00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:46,380 a boiler balloon that's impossible 753 00:40:49,220 --> 00:40:48,180 because it wouldn't move up and down 754 00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:49,230 like that 755 00:40:52,609 --> 00:40:50,820 [Music] 756 00:40:57,290 --> 00:40:52,619 not going up and then going over 757 00:41:03,170 --> 00:40:59,930 40 other people reported citing a 758 00:41:07,250 --> 00:41:05,210 subsequently I made a lot of inquiries 759 00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:07,260 about this object 760 00:41:12,829 --> 00:41:10,920 and I've tried the London weather center 761 00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:12,839 they said they'd had no reports of 762 00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:14,760 unusual activities 763 00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:18,780 I contacted civil aviation Authority at 764 00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:21,240 Heathrow they said that no airliners 765 00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,460 coming into or leaving Heathrow had 766 00:41:28,609 --> 00:41:26,160 reported citing the object Ministry of 767 00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,619 Defense confirmed all that and said that 768 00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:30,960 there had been no radar tracks of 769 00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,359 unknown objects at the time in question 770 00:41:38,290 --> 00:41:35,359 now that's quite possible of course 771 00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:38,300 especially if the UFO was able to 772 00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:41,520 disguise itself or to screen itself in 773 00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,000 some way from radar but I am surprised 774 00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:47,520 that some Pilots at least 775 00:41:53,329 --> 00:41:50,520 didn't report it because 776 00:41:56,089 --> 00:41:53,339 um it would have been seen from a very 777 00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:56,099 very wide area and I'm sure that that 778 00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:57,900 thousands of people must have seen this 779 00:42:02,510 --> 00:41:59,880 thing I mean it was alternately hovering 780 00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:02,520 and maneuvering in a completely clear 781 00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:05,760 sky for an hour and 10 minutes 782 00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,520 yeah 783 00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:10,800 some of the clearest and most frequent 784 00:42:15,230 --> 00:42:12,420 sightings in modern times have happened 785 00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:15,240 in Elmwood Wisconsin they had so many 786 00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:17,640 Close Encounters that the town became 787 00:42:23,569 --> 00:42:19,920 the inspiration for Steven Spielberg's 788 00:42:27,950 --> 00:42:25,609 when the Sun goes down over Elmwood 789 00:42:30,890 --> 00:42:27,960 Wisconsin the people of this Tiny Town 790 00:42:32,930 --> 00:42:30,900 see them I could see the little legs on 791 00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:32,940 it like little pods on the bottom it was 792 00:42:37,310 --> 00:42:35,760 a saucer-shaped deal when he got over 793 00:42:40,010 --> 00:42:37,320 the village 794 00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:40,020 and it was gone out of sight 795 00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:41,119 s 796 00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:51,540 people call it the Forbidden Village in 797 00:42:55,609 --> 00:42:53,400 The Forsaken Valley 798 00:42:58,130 --> 00:42:55,619 but Elmwood decided to go one step 799 00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:58,140 further in making contact 800 00:43:02,690 --> 00:42:59,819 in our opinion this is going to 801 00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:02,700 represent man's Grand attempt here to 802 00:43:07,309 --> 00:43:04,859 reach out and establish a relationship 803 00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:07,319 with this Society they're trying to 804 00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:09,720 raise 16 million dollars to build a 805 00:43:14,329 --> 00:43:11,880 landing base and entice their alien 806 00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:14,339 visitors out of their spacecraft but 807 00:43:18,349 --> 00:43:16,140 there are many people who already claim 808 00:43:21,470 --> 00:43:18,359 to have met aliens 809 00:43:25,309 --> 00:43:21,480 I was here in this room in our bedroom 810 00:43:26,030 --> 00:43:25,319 and it was 3 17 a.m audience of the 811 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:26,040 morning 812 00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:29,760 I was here alone 813 00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,140 my husband is going to wear in a 814 00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:33,119 training course 815 00:43:36,349 --> 00:43:34,680 I was sleeping on that side of the bed 816 00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:36,359 and my young son was sleeping on this 817 00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:39,720 side it was a lot smaller then 818 00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,560 and I was woken up but it was just a 819 00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:45,119 strange feeling really it was like 820 00:43:51,050 --> 00:43:48,079 unseen hands sort of shaking you awake 821 00:43:52,730 --> 00:43:51,060 and I had this urge to get out of bed 822 00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:52,740 and go and look up the window 823 00:43:56,210 --> 00:43:54,240 it was like someone was telling me to go 824 00:43:58,370 --> 00:43:56,220 and look out the window 825 00:44:00,650 --> 00:43:58,380 just very strange 826 00:44:02,510 --> 00:44:00,660 um I did I got out of the bed and I 827 00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:02,520 walked over to those windows and looked 828 00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,680 out in the distance 829 00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,839 there were lots of little lights moving 830 00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:07,920 around 831 00:44:11,450 --> 00:44:09,480 and I thought at first that they were 832 00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,460 just Stars you know moving around in the 833 00:44:15,470 --> 00:44:13,440 distance I remember thinking you know 834 00:44:19,069 --> 00:44:15,480 wow they look pretty and then realizing 835 00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:21,290 I felt myself sort of being lifted up 836 00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:23,339 being pulled upwards 837 00:44:27,170 --> 00:44:25,680 and I was in this light lots of blue 838 00:44:28,910 --> 00:44:27,180 blue white light 839 00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:28,920 and then the light dimmed down and I 840 00:44:32,329 --> 00:44:30,180 could see sort of Shadows moving around 841 00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,339 in this light 842 00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:34,800 and then the lights have dimmed down a 843 00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:36,540 bit more and then they're standing in 844 00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:39,000 front of me were 845 00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:43,560 what I would describe as three non-human 846 00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:46,140 beings and they're about three and a 847 00:44:50,089 --> 00:44:47,940 half to four feet tall 848 00:44:53,210 --> 00:44:50,099 brown tan in color 849 00:44:57,050 --> 00:44:53,220 and had large oval heads large oval 850 00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:57,060 black eyes had long skinny arms they 851 00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:59,210 look like undeveloped children 852 00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:00,300 [Music] 853 00:45:03,710 --> 00:45:01,680 um 854 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:03,720 they moved up and stood in front of me 855 00:45:09,050 --> 00:45:06,480 and one of them stood directly ahead and 856 00:45:12,050 --> 00:45:09,060 one on either side 857 00:45:14,210 --> 00:45:12,060 and they had a funny smell to them 858 00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:14,220 I think the most traumatic part really 859 00:45:17,569 --> 00:45:15,599 was 860 00:45:20,089 --> 00:45:17,579 this taller one had come and stood by my 861 00:45:21,470 --> 00:45:20,099 head and he wasn't holding me but I felt 862 00:45:22,910 --> 00:45:21,480 like he was holding me down he was 863 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:22,920 leaning across 864 00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:24,900 the head of this table and staring into 865 00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,520 my face 866 00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:28,319 and I couldn't move it was like all I 867 00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:30,180 could do was respond to him looking at 868 00:45:33,410 --> 00:45:31,440 me 869 00:45:35,890 --> 00:45:33,420 and 870 00:45:39,170 --> 00:45:35,900 one of the the other little brown 871 00:45:40,849 --> 00:45:39,180 guys came came over from the right and 872 00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,859 he was holding something that looked 873 00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:42,960 like a single strand of fiber optic 874 00:45:47,809 --> 00:45:46,140 cable and it was lit up all along its 875 00:45:50,270 --> 00:45:47,819 length it didn't have a light on it or 876 00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:50,280 anything it was just a light 877 00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:53,520 and the one standing at the head of the 878 00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:55,079 table took my head and sort of turned it 879 00:45:58,609 --> 00:45:55,980 slightly 880 00:46:00,410 --> 00:45:58,619 facing that way 881 00:46:01,730 --> 00:46:00,420 and then I just felt this was tremendous 882 00:46:02,569 --> 00:46:01,740 pain 883 00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,579 um 884 00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:04,319 like my head was being sort of split 885 00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:05,940 open on the inside it was just a 886 00:46:10,430 --> 00:46:07,500 tremendous pain 887 00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:10,440 and I knew that whatever this was that 888 00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:11,760 this one was caring that they'd stuck it 889 00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:13,260 into my head 890 00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:15,180 and I felt a sharp pull at the back of 891 00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:18,420 my head like a tug a sudden tug 892 00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,300 and I was lying on as a salon on this 893 00:46:25,730 --> 00:46:22,800 table and 894 00:46:28,370 --> 00:46:25,740 I can remember I'm crying and the tears 895 00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:28,380 are running down my nose 896 00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:30,300 instead of dropping onto my lip and I 897 00:46:34,490 --> 00:46:32,220 can taste them I can taste the salty 898 00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:34,500 tears you know and it's not the sort of 899 00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:35,460 thing 900 00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:39,839 Dreams they're against vivid dreams like 901 00:46:43,609 --> 00:46:42,300 you know everyone else and they remain 902 00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:43,619 with you for a while in fact they're 903 00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:45,839 extremely Vivid but I have never ever 904 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,460 woken up from such a dream or a 905 00:46:53,329 --> 00:46:49,680 nightmare with hair missing from the 906 00:46:55,309 --> 00:46:53,339 back of my head a small hole in my navel 907 00:46:58,490 --> 00:46:55,319 that was leaking fluid 908 00:47:00,410 --> 00:46:58,500 all the bruises where this you know 909 00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:00,420 pencil thing had touched me 910 00:47:06,050 --> 00:47:03,660 and this overwhelming sort of memory of 911 00:47:08,329 --> 00:47:06,060 smells and sounds you know these are 912 00:47:10,130 --> 00:47:08,339 these are real as I say sort of since 913 00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:10,140 this is real sensory they were moving 914 00:47:13,790 --> 00:47:11,579 like a source of wood if you skipped it 915 00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:13,800 across water and the newspaper reporter 916 00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:15,119 then pick that up and use the term 917 00:47:19,849 --> 00:47:17,940 Flying Saucer I've described that term 918 00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:19,859 flying saucerer as the best advertising 919 00:47:22,849 --> 00:47:21,300 slogan in the world because people are 920 00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,859 still buying the product 40 years later 921 00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:24,000 even though they don't know what they'd 922 00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:27,540 buy I'm convinced that there is a very 923 00:47:33,470 --> 00:47:30,240 fine line between 924 00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:33,480 fear of ridicule 925 00:47:38,510 --> 00:47:36,000 and official secrecy 926 00:47:41,809 --> 00:47:38,520 and I'm sure that one of the reasons the 927 00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:41,819 authorities are loathed to get involved 928 00:47:45,650 --> 00:47:43,800 in any public discussion 929 00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:45,660 of the phenomena is because they're 930 00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:47,940 afraid of looking stupid 931 00:47:54,170 --> 00:47:50,880 [Music] 932 00:47:56,210 --> 00:47:54,180 in 1977 NASA launched the Voyager space 933 00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:56,220 probes on a mission to travel into 934 00:48:02,330 --> 00:47:59,760 Infinity deep space on board they carry 935 00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:02,340 a message from the human race 936 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,750 [Music] 937 00:48:27,290 --> 00:48:23,520 in years to come they too could become 938 00:48:28,610 --> 00:48:27,300 mysterious UFOs circling above some Far 939 00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:28,620 distant planet 940 00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:30,660 [Music] 941 00:48:35,390 --> 00:48:33,180 how will its inhabitants react to the 942 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:35,400 idea that aliens have been exploring 943 00:48:49,530 --> 00:48:38,250 their world investigating them